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When did you start to feel maybe not consistant movement but more than just flutters?

I am 17w3d and I feel things every now and then but not on a regular basis. Im not worried cause I know that its normal not to feel a consistant movement pattern but when did you guys at least start to feel your baby and kno it was ur baby and not just flutters??

I'm 21 weeks and I just started to notice her actual movements rather than just flutters. But its still at that point where I have to be laying down flat to really notice and feel it. When I'm up and moving around I think it kinda puts her to sleep because I never feel her move then, its just when I stop and relax that I can really feel her moving.

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